Ned; In this case I was making fun of the description. Not trying to tear the person down if that's what you thought. We all make mistakes, but again as in this case, I even mentioned, it was in humor, as I even get myself for being a "Vintage Pen Collector". I enjoy humor, but will never tear a person down, as I will collect vintage pens, even with all the strange looks and comments by others, till the day I die! Steve -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ned Storm" <takenbystorm10023@...> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:37 PM To: "Steve N." <penguru1@...>; "a aa" <classwp@...> Cc: "Mike Rosen" <miker2001@...>; <pens@...> Subject: Re: [ZossPens] Ebay pen that wasn't MOLESTED!!! > > > Is it humor or is making fun of someone because it is convenient. Like looking at the messages, banana pen, or the person who > mentions in great condition but the nib is missing a pointy part and the side piece of metal does not move. Why should newbies > feel comfortable because someone is having a laugh at their expense of their mistake. > > Then comes the group chiming in on how the person is an idiot and then comes more laughter. > > Even thick skins get pierced and can bleed. > > Ned > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve N. <penguru1@...> > To: a aa <classwp@...> > Cc: Mike Rosen <miker2001@...>; pens@... > Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 11:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ZossPens] Ebay pen that wasn't MOLESTED!!! > > Greetings Akhil; > > I'm a vintage fountain pen collector, Most people laugh at that every time I tell them when we first meet. Please enjoy a bit of > humor too!! > > Thanks, and best Regards, Steve > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "a aa" <classwp@...> > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:22 PM > To: "Steve N." <penguru1@...> > Cc: "Mike Rosen" <miker2001@...>; <pens@...> > Subject: Re: [ZossPens] Ebay pen that wasn't MOLESTED!!! > >> Actually, 'unmolested' is frequently used when describing an item >> that is in its original, unmodified state and has not been restored. >> >> Interesting to see how this term has given rise to this discussion. >> >> Regards, >> Akhil >> >> >> >> >> >> On 15 February 2010 21:49, Steve N. <penguru1@...> wrote: >>> You are right Mike, but the "Not Molested" was a new one on even me. Quite >>> an advertising gimmick; if intended, or a great new way to describe pens in >>> "fairly good, to pretty good" shape. Maybe something for the pen book >>> writers to consider in their "forwards". A good condition description if >>> there are not too many obvious "strangulation, plier, teeth etc marks on the >>> pen in their professional autopsies. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mike Rosen" <miker2001@...> >>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:37 PM >>> To: <penguru1@...>; <pens@...> >>> Subject: RE: [ZossPens] Ebay pen that wasn't MOLESTED!!! >>> >>>> >>>> THey forgot the words, "estate fresh" "art deco" and "non-smoking home" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and listing every pen manufacturer in their listing so it would pop up in >>>> every search imaginable. >>>> >>>>> From: penguru1@... >>>>> To: pens@... >>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:34:13 -0600 >>>>> Subject: [ZossPens] Ebay pen that wasn't MOLESTED!!! >>>>> >>>>> VINTAGE WATERMAN 52 RED RIPPLE IDEAL FOUNTAIN PEN >>>>> ORIGINAL AS FOUND UNMOLESTED CONDITION >>>>> Item number: 130367397334 >>>>> >>>>> Thank Heavens that no one "had their way" with this poor pen. Hopefully >>>>> she is not bid on by any perverted pen collector. >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise we would have to call in the "Pen Police". >>>>> >>>>> Speaking of that, should we somehow organize and vote for some Pen >>>>> Police? >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ====== BE SURE TO THANK AND SUPPORT OUR ADVERTISERS ======= >>>>> www.SwisherPens.com - Fine Writing Instruments, Stationery and >>>>> Accessories >>>>> www.ConwayStewart.com- Conway Stewart - A Truly English Writing >>>>> Experience >>>>> Bertrams - fine writing instruments since 1985 - www.bertramsinkwell.com >>>>> ====== >>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE send blank message to pens-unsubscribe@... >>>>> or pens-digest-unsubscribe@... - THANK YOU >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ====== BE SURE TO THANK AND SUPPORT OUR ADVERTISERS ======= >>> www.SwisherPens.com - Fine Writing Instruments, Stationery and Accessories >>> www.ConwayStewart.com- Conway Stewart - A Truly English Writing Experience >>> Bertrams - fine writing instruments since 1985 - www.bertramsinkwell.com >>> ====== TO UNSUBSCRIBE send blank message to pens-unsubscribe@... or >>> pens-digest-unsubscribe@... - THANK YOU >>> >> > > ====== BE SURE TO THANK AND SUPPORT OUR ADVERTISERS ======= > www.SwisherPens.com - Fine Writing Instruments, Stationery and Accessories > www.ConwayStewart.com- Conway Stewart - A Truly English Writing Experience > Bertrams - fine writing instruments since 1985 - www.bertramsinkwell.com > ====== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE send blank message to pens-unsubscribe@... > or pens-digest-unsubscribe@... - THANK YOU > > >